View Full Version : Psych-ops and Low Profile Battling of CIA in the Middle East
bezgin
07-22-2006, 03:50 PM
Let's talk about how US is fighting its war in different aspects of battling in the Middle East. What do you guys think?
bezgin
07-24-2006, 04:35 PM
In the recent months i've watched many documentaries and read many articles about America's New Century doctrine.
So what is CIA capable of?
1. CIA is capable of using a variety of manipulation, propoganda and falsification technologies being developped and improved in many different institutes in the USA. Some of them are voice imitation, double-individuals, false video and voice recording.
2. CIA was re-structured from the top to the bottom after the new Commander-in-chief had moved in to his office. They are extending from US Millitary Force to the Middle East correspondents of XYZ Television Channel.
3. CIA is capable of working as a network with US' allies as well as its enemies. Everyday another bomb exploding throughout Iraq. some of them are carried out by the extremist insurgency, some them by, well you know who.
4. CIA is carrying out training and low-profile battle tactics in the Northern Iraq on regular basis. The capturing and humiliation turkish soldiers three years back is a well planned and coordinated sabotage by the CIA.
5. CIA, like many other agencies of the world representing the governments "New World Order" Doctrine in its own harsh and cold-blooded way. Two years back, a german citizen was captured without a reason, packed and sent to Afghanistan for his illegal questioning and torturing.
http://www.evz.ro/article.php?artid=256217
What is CIA's mission in the Middle East? Well, let's have a look at the "New American Century Project"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
This will continue...
bezgin
07-30-2006, 01:37 PM
Truth, is an offense.
These single-minded conservative guys don't fear any form of armed defnses, insurgency or weapon.
What they really fear is the truth. Truth is their biggest enemy, truth is their nightmare. So my friends we will keep on searchin for the truth and inform each other to become a stronger opponent of these guys.#
We are just and rightful in our cause. We should be good acknowledged too.
Ok now, the New American Century
The American Century is an organisation supplying today's American government and White House with neccessary politics.
What is the neccessary politics?
"
"American leadership is good both for America and for the world"
"such leadership requires military strength, diplomatic energy and commitment to moral principle"
"too few political leaders today are making the case for global leadership."
The PNAC also made a statement of principles at their 1997 inception.
As the 20th century draws to a close, the United States stands as the world's pre-eminent power. Having led the West to victory in the Cold War, America faces an opportunity and a challenge: Does the United States have the vision to build upon the achievements of past decades? Does the United States have the resolve to shape a new century favorable to American principles and interests?
The PNAC advocates "a policy of military strength and moral clarity" which includes
A significant increase of US military spending.
Strengthening ties with US allies and challenging regimes hostile to US interests and values.
Promoting the cause of political and economic freedom outside the US.
Preserving and extending an international order friendly to US security, prosperity and principles. "
From Wikipedia.
As you can see these guys are trying to pave the way for a "New World Order" which father Bush presented in his time of presence in the White House early 1990's. The idea was a bit raw and cionditions were not ripe as US was busy robbing the Russian and Central Asian resources at the time.
The father Bush, who was the CIA director himself late seventies is founder of "New World Order" dedicated his life to explore and dominate the new untouched markets of the world like Russia, Central Asia and China for the his family and corporate's America. If you look at the Bushs' History you will find out that this is a family tradition.
The US has made good business from war-industry over the years. US governments sold UK a big amount of weapon during the 2nd World War and involved with the war to collect the repayment of the European countries. The declaration of war was just a clever move to prevent Russia taking over the Europe which secured the return of credits given to the British empire. After each war US secured new markets for its industries and spreaded its territories.
Actually we can say that the US were always in offence with undeclared wars all over the world. The idea was simple "American leadership is good both for America and for the world". In order to realize this bullshit, US was intervening with some countries' internal affairs' in favor of democracy while supporting and provoking counter-guerillas and armed forces of other countries against democratically elected governments.
This double standard has been a trademark of American foreign policy. In Vietnam, Korea and Afghanistan. they matched their power with Soviet Russia. In Iran-Iraq war they sold weapons and weapon development technology to both Dictator Saddam and extremist Humeyni.
To be continued...
bezgin
07-31-2006, 08:48 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_operations_%28United_States%29
America, land of the free.
As most of you would clearly remember, there was a saying in both CNN and BBC in the first weeks of Iraq War. "To win the hearts and minds of Iraqi people". Now this is very meaningful. We have to stop and think: how could the hearts and minds could be won? These people were expecting the Allied Forces to leave as soon as Saddam had gone.
1. The Shiite and Sunni people were provoked against each other. Who in the world would have benefitted from this?
2. We have seen CIA agents making meetings with PKK terrorists in Northern Iraq and south-eastern Turkey. What was the deal?
3. Foreigners have been kidnapped, some violently killed by the extremists. What exactly did such violence change in the eyes of Anti-War supporters?
1. During the 2. World War it was Nazis and Fascists.
2. Until the 1990's it was the Soviets.
3. And ladies and gentlemen please welcome, your new and most feared enemy, the vicious Islam.
It is always the same old game: Marketing
As you all may well know Israel is attacking Lebanon nowadays and killing innocent civilians. What does Condalizza Rice say to that?
Earlier, meeting in Jerusalem with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, she said the time has come for a new Middle East. "I have no doubt there are those who wish to strangle a democratic and sovereign Lebanon in its crib," Rice said. "We, of course, also urgently want to end the violence."
From Fox News
New Middle East...Very interesting, what a surprise.
So now let's take look again how a new Middle East should look.
http://www.armedforcesjournal.com/2006/06/1833899
The sharing of Middle East is going on. The US is determined to accomplish what the UK and Germany wasn't able to. To get the control of resources before potential threats and rivals like China or Russia. But this time they know China and Russia are not able to do anything. China is happy with what it gets, low wages and mass-production. And Russia is too weakened (Chechnya). And Europe? Forget about it :D.
Let's return back on psychological operations. Now that US convinced the whole world with the lie that Islam is the new threat, they can export democracy, liberty and some other goods to these poor "long enslaved" people. Where? In Iraq. Where? In Palestine. Not in Saudi Arabia, not in Kuwait, not in Egypt. But in Syria. Not in Israel. But in Iran. But in....Turkey.
Why is Turkey, long time an "ally" of USA and Israel now in the targets of "New Middle East Project" ?
To be continued...
bezgin
08-05-2006, 11:12 PM
Turks and Kurds.
We have been living together for a thousand years, and peacefully for at least 900 hundred years.
And the problems had always occured from the external reasons.
Now we know the global players were behind it. Once it was the Soviets and the British and the French.
Now it is USA and Israel.
The global players want a chaotic and destructed Anatolia, they always had.
You can see it in the eyes of Condileezza Rice and in the eyes of Israeli government. When the people of Lebanon are slaughtered they can cheer up in front of the cameras.
What do you want me to say? These people never mentioned a regret for civilian casualties, even the Israeli ones. These people have no religion, no morals, no ethics...
What do you want me to say? They believe in nothing.
They want to sell more weapons.
They want more oil at the price of a human life.
Of course they won't care about the death of a Turkish baby or a Kurdish.
They will mind their own business....
End of "New Middle East Project"
May God fogive us all...
gunal
08-09-2006, 09:08 AM
People,
Be Aware Of 2012 ..the End Of The Civilization
And The Beginning Of The New Order.
America (who Knows The Truth - Lspdv) , Preparing To This Order And Middle East Project Is Part Of This New Order.
Colony Will Pass Their New Land And Mankind Will Continue Their Mission Thus.
America Is Not A Different Part Of Humanity And Earth.its Just A Pieces Of Mankind And Our Civilation.
Only The Strong Men Will Alive , Others Just Dies.
bezgin
08-12-2006, 02:55 PM
Low intensity conflict (LIC) is the use of military forces applied selectively and with restraint to enforce compliance with the policies or objectives of the political body controlling the military force. The term can be used to describe conflicts where at least one or both of the opposing parties operate along such lines.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_intensity_conflict
If one day, the USA is able to provoke the Arab, Turkish, Kurdish and Persian nations against each other, we will know it is the USA that is killing us.
We won't forget the betrayal of today's US Government. We sware.
It is not the American people but their tyranny governments that we detest.
streetcredit12v
08-27-2006, 06:58 AM
If one day, the USA is able to provoke the Arab, Turkish, Kurdish and Persian nations against each other, we will know it is the USA that is killing us.
We won't forget the betrayal of today's US Government. We sware.
It is not the American people but their tyranny governments that we detest.
I could not agree with these 3 sentences more, but first let me discuss something that many people fail to take into consideration on this very heated topic.
When one speaks of a certain race, ethnic group, country, religion, etc, we take to mind the mental imagery of those groups' leaders (not in all cases I understand, but in many, at least from my standpoint). For example, when someone brings to conversation let's say America, for most people a mental picture of some type of leader such as George Bush would come to mind. I bring up this point because as a citizen of America, my opinion on what happens with the "war" in Iraq is a mute point. The views of the American people according to many non well-informed places all over the world reflect the views of that leader, which in our case is GWB. Need I say anymore? No, but I'll keep going.
We as citizens of the world, not just our respective countries, need to understand that the views of these leaders under no circumstance will ever match the views of every citizen or member of that certain group. I am honestly ashamed that the very person who we elected to represent our values as American Citizens is someone like Bush.
What does democracy mean? Democracy is a government for the people, by the people. We elect leaders of whom we feel will keep this country ticking on a steady, successful, and most importantly problem-free (idealy) basis. When Condoleeza Rice or whoever else speaks of "winning over the Iraqi people," in my opinion she is saying that to feed the hungry ears of angered citizens. Let's be realistic here. If armored cars, humvees, and tanks thundered down your street everyday, I find it a little hard to believe that anything of that nature is winning ANYBODY'S heart over. Yes, I do understand that most of the Iraqi people are happy for the change of government (for lack of a better term), but what I have a huge problem with is US Officials telling us what we want to hear.
Sure, Bush will tell you that we needed to go to Iraq to get big bad Saddam. He will also tell you that Iraq was before the American occupation one of the most deadly countries on earth. He'll also tell you that Osama blew up the trade centers, and that on that terrible day of September 11th, 2001 that "freedom was attacked." Why does he tell us all of these things? He tells us these lies to keep us happy.
Again, let's be realistic here. Bush does what he wants. As well, the CIA will do what they want, just as well as the American Government as a whole. Is there a real need to occupy Iraq like this? We got Saddam didn't we? We thwarted his evil rule, and got all of his WMDs just like Bush said huh. No. There was no WMDs. Just like there was no plane that hit the Pentagon. Just like there was no way (scientifically proved) that the World Trade Centers both collapsed by jet fuel explosion. Just like Flight 93 never crashed in Sommerset, PA. LIES.
My point here is, we as citizens of America grant our government officials a certain amount of "freedom" if that's what you'd like to call it, to do what they feel is necessary for the betterment of our country. Since the year 2000, America has not been living under democratic rule, but rather the rule of a tyrant, a tyrant which is the Bush Administration. A tyrant who will do what it wants, when it wants, for whatever reason it sees fit with no apprehension about the consequesnces. Yes Bush, freedom was attacked on 9/11. But it was not at the hands of Al-Queda or Hezbollah, it was at the hands of the American Government. The freedom of those soldiers who die everday in the middle east, the freedom of those people that died in those horrible events was certainly attacked and stripped away.
The government gives us reason to believe that we have good motivation to be at war with Iraq, and then spreads its slanderous filth of propaganda that it is with pride that I as an 18 year old male SHOULD join the armed forces. Where's the pride in taking lives? Where's the pride in being brutally murdered by terrorists? Is it in the fact that I may help Bush's war machine tear throughout the world? And what's to say it stops with Iraq?
We can talk all we want about new psych-ops or whatever you call it in this "war," but it doesn't matter. At all. What matters is that what the Government tells you, is probably either not the full story, or flat out just not true. They'll tell you it's a low profile battle, but tell that to the thousands of troops' families that have had to deal with a death due to this war.
Let me finish by saying that I fully support the troops in every way. I do not in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM support why they are there. May God bless each and every one of them, especially my Uncle Mike. May God be with you all.
If any of you are interested in what I had to say about 9/11 being a conspiracy, please watch this video. It absolutely opened my eyes.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=9%2F11+loose+change
arabian falcon
08-28-2006, 06:46 AM
If any of you are interested in what I had to say about 9/11 being a conspiracy, please watch this video. It absolutely opened my eyes.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=9%2F11+loose+change
Soon ... Very soon ... Defeated America ... The Sitasser Arabs and the Muslims ... The Senmsh Israel On the face of the earth .... It will take revenge, Israel and America did children and women ... We will not forget Oh, you cruel soldiers pigs dirty ... Keep in mind that the Arab world being tried sat Over 18 Century. They were always progress and science and peace hands ... But after it emerged America Israel ... We did not find only war, destruction and killing of children and women ... It is the first precedent Its kind in history ... That in the dustbin of history ... remember and that no date in the base ... But you Have been living on the land are not for u ... And that indigenous land Indians Rouge ..... It has killed Brutally ... When stabilized things you dirty ... You have to kill innocent blacks ... We have Planted racism world which the Americans failing ... Ants you ... The Nasrullah Father ... Thus, the Quran tells us a great
bezgin
08-28-2006, 07:52 AM
Arabian falcon is an agent provocateur. It is not hard to recognise you and alikes.
bezgin
08-28-2006, 07:54 AM
In 2003 CIA hired agent provocateurs from countries all over the world. We won't forget. We don't get tricked by "Arabian falcon"s.
This is called counter-intelligence.
bezgin
08-28-2006, 08:01 AM
An agent provocateur (plural: agents provocateurs, French language, "inciting agent") is a person who secretly disrupts a group's activities from within the group. Agents provocateur are typically representing the interests of another group, or are agents who are directly assigned to provoke unrest, violence, debate, or argument by or within a group while acting as a member of the group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur
Counter-intelligence is the activity of preventing the enemy from obtaining secret information, such as careful classification and control of sensitive information and spreading disinformation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counter_intelligence
bezgin
08-28-2006, 08:34 AM
There is a Turkish Research Program at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy for ex. The researchers of this institute are publishing articles about Turkey lacking basic facts.
Is there a British Research Program anywhere in the US?
We are carefully watching.
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateI02.php?SID=12&newActiveSubNav=Turkey&activeSubNavLink=templateI02.php%3FSID%3D12&newActiveNav=researchAreas
bezgin
08-28-2006, 09:29 AM
"... voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
-Hermann Goering, Nazi Commander, April 18, 1946 (Nuremberg Diary, by Gustave Gilbert)
arabian falcon
08-29-2006, 10:01 AM
, "inciting agent") [/url]
mmmmmmm
I think you do not have the mind ... Or that you are blind .... I think that the American fault know that the ... They Alasra'elion Americans ... Murderers Children and women in Iraq, Palestine and Lebanon ... Those are some pictures of your Dirty war ... The audience will not forget you
*NO LINKING*
I strongly Tshahdo isreal children what to do in the latest images Give a justification for the child to do so ... isreal teach their children to terrorism Since small ...iseral fighting planes, tanks and submarines America and kill them as you purchase Will you do ... All this for quarantine Palestinian ... You are cowards
streetcredit12v
08-31-2006, 12:35 AM
nah, my man. you're the coward for doin sneaky shit like that. so go get a life.
streetcredit12v
08-31-2006, 12:36 AM
good call, bezgin. you really know your stuff.
bezgin
09-08-2006, 03:43 PM
Thanks for this.
Where as 9/11 was an attack against twin towered trade centre but this is turned into a major hype to terrorise the whole western public. The general public is very skilfully drawn in and are made to believe this lopsided and excessively blown up act of terror, into an imaginary, phoney war conducted by an imaginary enemy from some unknown territories. The web of terrorism described so, is of pyramid like shape and the name given to the leadership elites at the summit is Bin Ladin and Al,qaida.
This is helping a lot to broaden the on going Iraq and Afghanistan wars and to achieve the set goals of establishing US hegemony in the land of critical oil rich resources of Middle East.
On the home front, in order to make the public to stay fearful at all the times and to keep them on board against terrorism, the electronic media has been made to buy this hype. Media is finding this, puff push and soft sell weapon very rewarding, always giving them ever new and revealing stories for their business. This is keeping the graph of public opinion in favour of this imaginary and phoney ‘war on terror’, on high marks.
Other than the daily barrage of blasting rhetoric of terror being drummed in by the chieftains…., the on going exercise of ‘Air planes terror plot’ is a latest booster implied. This is also proving to be a fruitful ‘opinion harvester’ and may be kept alive and ripe as a ‘universal tool’ for a considerable period of time to come.
Al-Qaeda friends are as usual, a good helping hand in the up keep of this hype too. They can any time come up with their video rhetoric to rescue the whole affair. To mark and reaffirm this hype, their video release as expected right before the 9/11 anniversary event has just been released. This may follow by another one, on the dot, released by Al,jazeera, very much expected before midterm US elections in November, 2006.
But Israel Army retreat in the face of Hezbollah resilience in south Lebanon has brought lots of embarrassment for the US. In order to regain the lost deterrence, this seems eminent that out of desperation, US may attack Iran being the last odd obstacle found in Middle East, with all her might, under any pretext.
This is worth mentioning again that Hezbollah guerrilla tactic demonstrated in Lebanon is an encouragement for Iran to put up greater resilience. US lead forces are likely to encounter a tough time in the killing fields set up by Iran. This may become, a colossal failure faced by US in the Middle East.
God forbid that winds of autumn may not befall on the fate of this Neocon strategy in Middle East.
Because, when the autumn cometh, even the greenest and strong rooted trees are compelled to shake down their leaves and; Lo, they stand stark naked in the gloomy cold evenings…shivering;
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Love for all, Hatred for None
bezgin
09-08-2006, 03:58 PM
Thanks streety, very well put here. I couldn't have explained better myself.
One question remains the same. What will the Democrats do?
Are they really willing to go after the "brain team" who schemed that sabotage. I don't ignore the involvement of extermist Islamists but i am sure there are plenty people in the current administration who could have avoided it but chose to trigger it instead. And i know in a Democrats' reign this would never have happened.
But the Democrats are also going to be supported by the Lords of War and Kings of Oil as far as i know. How can they break this vicious circle. I am hopeless.
I could not agree with these 3 sentences more, but first let me discuss something that many people fail to take into consideration on this very heated topic.
When one speaks of a certain race, ethnic group, country, religion, etc, we take to mind the mental imagery of those groups' leaders (not in all cases I understand, but in many, at least from my standpoint). For example, when someone brings to conversation let's say America, for most people a mental picture of some type of leader such as George Bush would come to mind. I bring up this point because as a citizen of America, my opinion on what happens with the "war" in Iraq is a mute point. The views of the American people according to many non well-informed places all over the world reflect the views of that leader, which in our case is GWB. Need I say anymore? No, but I'll keep going.
We as citizens of the world, not just our respective countries, need to understand that the views of these leaders under no circumstance will ever match the views of every citizen or member of that certain group. I am honestly ashamed that the very person who we elected to represent our values as American Citizens is someone like Bush.
What does democracy mean? Democracy is a government for the people, by the people. We elect leaders of whom we feel will keep this country ticking on a steady, successful, and most importantly problem-free (idealy) basis. When Condoleeza Rice or whoever else speaks of "winning over the Iraqi people," in my opinion she is saying that to feed the hungry ears of angered citizens. Let's be realistic here. If armored cars, humvees, and tanks thundered down your street everyday, I find it a little hard to believe that anything of that nature is winning ANYBODY'S heart over. Yes, I do understand that most of the Iraqi people are happy for the change of government (for lack of a better term), but what I have a huge problem with is US Officials telling us what we want to hear.
Sure, Bush will tell you that we needed to go to Iraq to get big bad Saddam. He will also tell you that Iraq was before the American occupation one of the most deadly countries on earth. He'll also tell you that Osama blew up the trade centers, and that on that terrible day of September 11th, 2001 that "freedom was attacked." Why does he tell us all of these things? He tells us these lies to keep us happy.
Again, let's be realistic here. Bush does what he wants. As well, the CIA will do what they want, just as well as the American Government as a whole. Is there a real need to occupy Iraq like this? We got Saddam didn't we? We thwarted his evil rule, and got all of his WMDs just like Bush said huh. No. There was no WMDs. Just like there was no plane that hit the Pentagon. Just like there was no way (scientifically proved) that the World Trade Centers both collapsed by jet fuel explosion. Just like Flight 93 never crashed in Sommerset, PA. LIES.
My point here is, we as citizens of America grant our government officials a certain amount of "freedom" if that's what you'd like to call it, to do what they feel is necessary for the betterment of our country. Since the year 2000, America has not been living under democratic rule, but rather the rule of a tyrant, a tyrant which is the Bush Administration. A tyrant who will do what it wants, when it wants, for whatever reason it sees fit with no apprehension about the consequesnces. Yes Bush, freedom was attacked on 9/11. But it was not at the hands of Al-Queda or Hezbollah, it was at the hands of the American Government. The freedom of those soldiers who die everday in the middle east, the freedom of those people that died in those horrible events was certainly attacked and stripped away.
The government gives us reason to believe that we have good motivation to be at war with Iraq, and then spreads its slanderous filth of propaganda that it is with pride that I as an 18 year old male SHOULD join the armed forces. Where's the pride in taking lives? Where's the pride in being brutally murdered by terrorists? Is it in the fact that I may help Bush's war machine tear throughout the world? And what's to say it stops with Iraq?
We can talk all we want about new psych-ops or whatever you call it in this "war," but it doesn't matter. At all. What matters is that what the Government tells you, is probably either not the full story, or flat out just not true. They'll tell you it's a low profile battle, but tell that to the thousands of troops' families that have had to deal with a death due to this war.
Let me finish by saying that I fully support the troops in every way. I do not in ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM support why they are there. May God bless each and every one of them, especially my Uncle Mike. May God be with you all.
If any of you are interested in what I had to say about 9/11 being a conspiracy, please watch this video. It absolutely opened my eyes.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&q=9%2F11+loose+change
bezgin
09-09-2006, 12:03 PM
Thanks iggy.
No one believes in the old gods.
The empire is weak now.
Caeser is (GWB too, hopefully) under arrest now. Ha ha ha.
People of america
I bring you a great army
To preserve peace
In our empire
Throw them to the lions
Darling, let us go to the banouet hall...
There will be a great feast tonight!
Who are these christians?
What is this strange religion?
I ve heard it said they turn the other cheek
Ha ha ha ha
Throw them to the lions
Throw them to the lions
Throw them to the lions
Thumbs down
10 pieces of gold for every man
Hail caesar hail caesar
Grapes from sicily
Silks from asia minor
All the tea in china
Throw them to the lions
Throw them to the lions
Throw them to the lions
Who are these christians?
Turn the other cheek...
Ha ha ha ha ha
Two thumbs down
The christians are restless
Why not let them worship their god?
No one believes in the old gods
How tiresome...attending the rituals
Paying lip service to the portents
Burning incense at their shrine
No one believes in the old gods
Throw them to the lions
Throw them to the lions
Throw them to the lions
Hahahahahaha
The roman empire the glory of rome
Hail all hail
Caesar...caesar...beware beware the ides of march
Who is this man?
Caesar...he is but a soothsayer...he is old
And his brain is addled... pay him no mind!
Throw him to the lions! ha ha ha ha ha ha
Hail caesar! emperor of rome hail caesar!
Caesar...caesar...beware the ides of march
Eh? ! who is this man?
Caesar...he is but an old soothsayer...addled in his brain
Pay him no mind
Throw him to the lions! ha ha ha ha
Throw him to the lions!
No one believes in the old gods...
The empire is tired...caesar will rest now.
We depart for my chambers
Come darling
Yes caesar
Caesar will rest now
Hail rome hail caesar hail
Put him in the fiery pit
Ha ha ha ha!
bezgin
09-10-2006, 03:10 PM
A construcive, productive and fair USA is always welcome.
But not like that.
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